working in italy!!!!!!

[paulnewman]

qualifications did not come into it,as ive got them coming out of my ears!!!
the company wanted me so much to start work for them,but could not as ive said in the past posts on here,no company will give you a contract of work,till you have got your reg docs,and you cant get them till you got a contract from the company your trying to work for,
i spoke to the police office,the rec office,the company,the high commission,eu office,and just about every tom,dick and harry,and they all came back with the same things,some eu law,pasted last year...

[juliancoll]

Yeah, we get it - it's known in Italian as the regola da novella dello stento, cioe' una storia che non finisce mai. Also known as "Catch 22".

[Charles Phillips]

I think probably paulnewman wasn't able to 'get residency' from the comune. To succeed with 'getting residency' the comune will ask to see evidence that you can support yourself (€5000 in a bank account suffices).
It doesn't have to be your money of course, just your account, alternatively evidence of income from the UK.
Then the requirement for health insurance will come up. This will disappear the moment a person has work (and is paying INPS), so a commercial health insurance policy with the facility to drop the cover after a short period without penalty would solve this one.
I agree it is ridiculous to have to jump through these hoops, but hardly unachievable. Probably not even necesary if your Italian is up to argumentative scratch.
It is difficult to get any non-professional person to help with this, because it will all be quite unknown to an ordinary Italian, but a commercialista should have been able to sort it out.

[paulnewman]

the money was not a proplem,to show how much i had,
it did not even get that far,as stated in post that i wrote,some of you people are not reading what i wrote,or just dont understand what has happened!!!!!!!

[Nardini]

Originally Posted by paulnewman

qualifications did not come into it,as ive got them coming out of my ears!!!

Riiiiiiiiiiiiight...

[Charles Phillips]

You have not explained at all what these 'reg docs' which you couldn't obtain were. I'm beginning to think this thread is a wind up.

[Nardini]

Originally Posted by Charles Phillips

I'm beginning to think this thread is a wind up.

Grumpy old b that I may be, but I sense the sockpuppets are out again. Perhaps it is the worsening weather, eh?

[English teacher]

I remember something similar happening to a teacher who the company I worked for had hired. We couldn't give her a contract until she had her permesso di soggiorno (this back in 2004 I think) and she couldn't get her permesso di sogg until she had a work contract. Is this what you mean P Newman? But the situation was resolvable - we wrote a note to the people at the permesso di sogg office saying she had a contract, and attached the contract to the note. She got the permesso, we completed the contract, then she could apply for residenza. She left after a few months, but that's another story!

[Nardini]

Originally Posted by English teacher

I remember something similar happening to a teacher who the company I worked for had hired. We couldn't give her a contract until she had her permesso di soggiorno (this back in 2004 I think) and she couldn't get her permesso di sogg until she had a work contract. Is this what you mean P Newman? But the situation was resolvable - we wrote a note to the people at the permesso di sogg office saying she had a contract, and attached the contract to the note. She got the permesso, we completed the contract, then she could apply for residenza. She left after a few months, but that's another story!

But it isn't quite like that here any more. As an EU citizen, you no longer need a permesso di soggiorno. You need to get your tax code number (very easy and possible even from the UK) and, once you are living here, you need your residency. Apart from the codice fiscale, you don't actually need anything else to work, unless you are self-employed. Then you need to get your P.IVA (through your commercialista) and then your professional qualifications recognised by the chamber of trade. The rest is all just a wind-up, I'm afraid.

[Nielo]

Originally Posted by paulnewman

the money was not a proplem,to show how much i had,
it did not even get that far,as stated in post that i wrote,some of you people are not reading what i wrote,or just dont understand what has happened!!!!!!!

I think you are not explaining yourself well and that is why people are not understanding.

Cab we go through this step by step?

1 Do you speak Italian?
2 Did the company make the job offer in writing?
3Where were you living for the 4 months you were in Italy, i.e. with friends, in rented accommodation?
4 Why did you pay to move all your goods before starting your job?
5 You say you ‘sold up’ before moving so I assume you had some money in your account?
6 Did you apply for residency?
7 Did you get a codice fiscali?
8 What exactly are the reg docs you keep mentioning?
9 Did you apply to any other companies?

Finally I don’t think it is fair to blame Italy for what appears to me to be your own fault.