working in italy!!!!!!

[paulnewman]

just a warning to anybody who is thinking of moving and to live in italy!!!!!

i decided to up-root,and move to italy,around 4 months ago,as i had been there so meny times on holidays,etc,and enjoyed the places very much..and made meny friends,

i sold up here in the uk,and moved everything to italy,as so meny people said,there is no proplem,with work,and paperwork needed,as meny of them said,they will help me to sort out what was needed,

i work as a heating eng/plumber,etc,working for myself for some 30 years in the uk,
but!!!!!!! it turned out to be a big nightmere!!!!

for the past 4 months ive been there,ive not had any work,due to the fact,that
i had a job to start,working for a boiler company building boilers..

but on the due time to start,i was asked for my reg docs from the company who was going to employ me...

so i arranged a apointment with the reg office in cremona,where i was living,
to hope-fully get what was needed,to find out they could not give me any paperwork,without a contract from the company who was going to employ me...
so i went back to the company to find out,that they cant give me a contract for work,untill ive got my reg docs!!!!

so i was in the middle of some eu law,that was passed in 2007,stating that no-one can work in italy without the reg docs,and you cant get them without a contract from a company who is willing to employ you...

so ive had to come back to england,after spending moving costs to take things out to italy,
i just would like to advise people,to be very careful trusting italains!!!!
after so meny of them,said they would help me,with what i needed to do,and when it came down to trying to sort this proplem out,they did not help me in anyway what so ever..
so after spending and wasteing 8000.00pounds in moving costs,taking everything out there,and having to bring it all back to england again..
what a nightmere...i would reply to anybody,if they have any comments on this...
p newman

[Angie and Robert]

I am sorry for your experience, I have no problem trusting Italians, some of them are our good friends,but we did not come out here to work, regulations can be difficult, even just to live here and health care was initially hard to understand. But after returning to Italy after our first trip back to UK in nearly 3 yrs I am so pleaesd to be home. I felt embraced by our Itaian friends here in our village, and their support during what they knew was a difficut time for us has been wonderful.Where else would you be greeted with open arms,?and total acceptance of your problems?
A

[nickbass]

i am a heating/gas engineer. i am hoping to move to italy next year. i have been trying for ages to find out what reg docs are needed. i already work for an italian company in the u.k but it seems no help.pm me for details

[paulnewman]

hi,thanks for your message,
im in the same line of work,and have been for 30 years,
but if i was you,i would think and look very hard into moving to italy,ive been there so meny times for holidays etc,and decided to go and live there in cremona,so i sold my house here in the uk,and moved out there 4 months ago,at a cost of 4000pounds to take all my belongings,etc,
as so meny people there told me to come as soon as possable,as they will help do all the paperwork needed,so i did,and no one did anything,i was on my own trying to sort it all out,
but was getting no-where fast,
so now im back living in the uk,(great)!!!!
so the only advise i could give you is think about it for a long time first,and try and find out as much as possable,the embassys etc,are not much help!!!
best wishes to you,
p newman

[Carole B]

This is a trap that many fall into regarding the 'ease' of getting work here in Italy. There are (IMHO) three cardinal rules that should/must be followed before selling up and moving 'lock, stock and barrel' over here in the search for a better life...

1. DON'T believe what people over here tell you about the ease with which work can be found, many Italians can't even find work!!!
2. Do your homework - join forums, ask questions....FIND OUT what is needed and prepare carefully BEFORE you sell anything.
3. Start learning the language - you're going to need it!

Ignore these and the consequences, as you've discovered, are very costly and very painful - and even worse, they can be long term too!

Never mind "Location. Location. Location!"

With this it's "Research. Research. Research and then MORE RESEARCH!"

This link may be useful: >YOUR EUROPE - INFO<

[darling]

I agree to some extent with P Newmans comments, had the same experience. However I have work just not secure work. Here you have to be prepared to do whatever for short periods but inventive on how your going to earn the money you need, know your strengths and work with them. There is no security here.

[timwills]

It is upsetting to see negative experiences of moving over here. For anyone coming here it is unfair to apply, or expect, a higher standard from the Italians than you would expect at home. You should sort out your documentation before you move, get more than one estimate and pay for the professional advice you would normally pay for at home.
There are no magic short cuts.

[Cristiana]

Italy is of course a nice place to stay. There are plenty of welcoming towns where to live, that for a foreigner are surely better than a big town where even an Italian migrant could lose himself.

The right thing to do is PLANNING, PLANNING, PLANNING. Before moving and sell all is in your property, it would be better to know everything about job, lifestyle, health, environment of a country.
If I were you, I would move only after having the opportunity to work in a specific town for a specific firm. The other things (a house, health system etc.) will come after.

Internet may be a good link but also forums.
In particular, check out for job opportunities in the URP (Ufficio Relazioni con il Pubblico) website of the Italian Province where you wish to stay. There are plenty of offers in many sectors.

And remember, trust in yourself, not in others!
Good luck!
Cristiana

[annmarielucy]

Hi
from our experience -
my husband landed a job here in Italy in 2006. The contract was drawn up by the company which my husband agreed to before we moved out here, so when we arrived we already had the contract signed etc.
You are allowed to register here if you are in the european union as long as you can show you have sufficient income to support yourself(not sure what the current amount is) or you have a contract of employment due to which you will be easily registered.
This is our second time doing this - the first being in 2000 when we did exactly the same thing. My husband registered with every agency in the u.k. and Italy that offered jobs here and had 2/3 job offers from about 500 applications-but it's not easy so you've got to keep going. Hope this helps, Ann-Marie

[paulnewman]

hi..
thanks for the mail,
but it seems up till 2007,it was very stright forward to do your reg,etc
but due to some eu law in 2007,now you cant work without a contract,as so to get your reg,
and the companys will not give you a contract without your reg!!!!

i went back and forth to the company and reg office in cremona,where i was living,getting no-where fast!!!! for 4 months...
so just had enough and came back home last week to the uk..
after spending 4000pounds moving everything out there,and now,having to spend another 4000pounds to move it all back..
so you can imagine my feelings about italy at the moment..
the reason why i went quickly out there,apart from having a ob to start,is that around 30 italian people who i know there,said,they will sort out a contract for me,so i can get my reg,as so i can start the job i had,
and it turned out,not one of them did anything,and did not help in anyway what so ever...
i was on my own trying to sort it out..
and i could not do a thing anyway what so ever..
and they where meant to be good friends of mine,
thats the last time i let people talk me into trusting them...

and as for italy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
im sure you know how my feelingsare about that country now..
hope you will have better luck then i did
p newman