Different ENEL contracts

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There has been a lot of dicussion about 'special deals' on electricity costs, and this little brochure makes it all clear...or maybe!

There don't seem to me to be any great savings to be made, but take a look if you want to know what is on offer. It's in Italian.

http://www.enel.it/Sportello_Online/...def_030206.pdf

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Actually, looking carefully, for any of you with holdiay homes with a 3kW supply the Una+ tariff might be of interest.

For an annual fee of €153,91 non resident you get 500kWh of electricity, and only one bill, payable in advance. If you use more than 500kWh you pay the extra consumption at the normal rate.

[pilchard]

We are two months away from Rogito on the purchase of our ruin.
We would like to use that time to initiate applications to utility services and local contractors to install water, electricity and sewers. Have been told no one will even talk to us about it till the property is legally ours. Have approached the vendor, a geometra, to make an application. He is unable/unwilling to do so. Is there any other way around this? Do we have to sit on our backsides for two months?
The other thing is, we have been told, because the property is uninhabitable, the utility companies will refuse provision of service. Catch 22? Without electricity and water(toilet facilities would be nice), we cannot restore this building.
As (a) we are not wealthy, (b) we have skills and experience and, (c) we are intending to do the greater part of the restorations and additions ourselves: this project will not have builders crawling all over it for six months and then we move in. We will errect a log cabin (see "log cabin" post), to live in, as a temporary/semi-permanant/permanant structure while we fix the house. So, the last question is, how do we get services installed in advance to the proposed site of this log cabin. Hope this is not another catch 22 situation but is as simple as taking a ground plan of the site with the log cabin hatched in, general details of size, structure and use, they will stamp it and I send copies with applications for services to all interested parties.
Has anyone any advice or experiences to share? Don't want to go into this thing blind. Have a geometra on board but don't want to put everything in his hands from day one, and possibly give him a licenece to print money.

[liketheroman]

Originally Posted by pilchard

The other thing is, we have been told, because the property is uninhabitable, the utility companies will refuse provision of service. Catch 22? Without electricity and water(toilet facilities would be nice), we cannot restore this building.

You can get a temporary builders supply for the electricity (some people use it for years)

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You do need a local geometra even to help you start asking the sort of questions that you have posted.

From the point of view of not being able to get these services connected before you are the owner, this is invariably the case. But to put in train the long-winded process of obtaining an estimate for the necesary work from the electricity or water companies ahead of time should be possible (through your geometra), but does normally require some sort of slick talking to the utilities companies. (This stage could possibly be undertaken in the name of the current owner, with his agreement, since any estimates will be 'non-binding' and will not involve his committing to any contract). Drains: are you going to have an independent septic tank without a discharge to a public sewer? If so, that is not bureaucratically challenging at all, otherwise it isn't difficult, but does need to be notified with full drawings to the drainage authority, and they will estimate a charge for the sewer connection.

I am a little concerned that you have maybe not considered the costs of bringing these services to your ruin. Has it not got any water at all - a well perhaps? Has it never had any electricity? Can you see any power lines?

If your building is 'remote' - by which let us say more than 200metres from the nearest serviced house - you may have to budget for quite a lot of money and potentially a really long wait, running easily into months, for these services to arrive.

There is no difficulty 'legally' in getting both water and electricity supplied to a ruin, either on a 'construction' supply or on a normal domestic contract, once you own it.