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Graham Stockill · #1 (**permalink**) 18-06-08, 05:20 PM

Has anybody had problems with Liquigas charging for excessive amounts of gas. I am currently checking into where it is going, if at all, but before I do this I want to know if others are being fleeced by the above company. I have had checks done twice now and I am starting to get suspicious.

Paul RG · #2 (**permalink**) 19-06-08, 09:59 AM

The house I moved into had the tank supplied by this company so we got the first lot of gas from them before we arrived. We were charged .85 per ltr and it only lasted 2 weeks but I hadn't checked the gauge to see how much was in there.
I then ordered some from a different company who my friend knows - they put it in the tank although they shouldn't have done - but only charged me .70 per ltr. and the same amount lasted for 6 weeks (this was Jan/feb)
We are now going to have the Liquigas tank taken out and a new one fitted by the new supplier.
Hope this is a help.

Graham Stockill · #3 (**permalink**) 19-06-08, 10:47 AM

Thank you Paul for your reply. I did not realise you could change suppliers in that way. First of all I am still trying to ascertain if we have a physical problem but its a case of getting to trust engineers which is the same problem wherever you are in the world I think.

diddy · #4 (**permalink**) 23-06-08, 11:10 PM

I know oil prices have soared and so has my Liquigas bill from Euro 2,920 per cubic metre to euro 3320 per cubic metre. Meaning I now pay about 500 euro a month for a three bedroom house & I have solar panels & two woodburning stoves. If there is a cheaper supplier can someone let me know the name and whether they are in Puglia? thanks:

Geotherm · #5 (**permalink**) 24-06-08, 02:11 PM

Glad that I didn't go down the GPL route. From your costs, we have had 2 years heating and hot water for a lot less. Quick calculation from Oct 2006 - June 2008 Euro 1700. No gas (apart from the gas hob), no solar, but only the electricity cost. Even the 50 quintale of wood we bought in 2005 has hardly been touched, as no need unless we want to turn into roasted chestnuts

Paul RG · #6 (**permalink**) 24-06-08, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geotherm

Glad that I didn't go down the GPL route. From your costs, we have had 2 years heating and hot water for a lot less.

But for how much cost in the first place? The house I am renting already has a central heating system with GPL installed. To change systems I'd have to pay much more surly?

Geotherm · #7 (**permalink**) 24-06-08, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul RG

But for how much cost in the first place? The house I am renting already has a central heating system with GPL installed. To change systems I'd have to pay much more surly?

Of course Paul, it would cost more to change. The system here was implemented from the house rebuild after a lot of research especially into heating costs in Italy. Saying that though, many Italians are also now either changing to geothermal systems or having it as a primary source, with existing systems as a back-up if needed.
You can always post a question on one of the geothermal heating threads, so as not to change the original topic. My quote was just a comment on the cost of using GPL even with solar.

NickZ · #8 (**permalink**) 24-06-08, 07:27 PM

Most electricity in Italy comes from oil and natural gas. I don't want to think how much it'll be going up.

Diddy you're in Puglia ? You can't have many heating days? Or are you way up?

Paul RG · #9 (**permalink**) 25-06-08, 06:42 AM

GPL is a bi product of the petrol and diesel making process. In most plants it isn't even collected just burnt off! It only costs a few cents to capture and store it yet governments are not doing anything about conserving it and selling it - it's another sign to show just how stupid the powers that be are towards getting the best use out of energy. This original post is about being conned by one company, which I believe I was as well, and we are all being fleeced on energy prices GPL should be incredibly cost effective but it's not.

Noma · #10 (**permalink**) 25-06-08, 07:39 AM

About 20% is by-product of refining- the remainder is naturally occurring. The naturally occurring gas must be "cleaned", and both must be liquified, stored and transported (using fuel oil). A few cents might be low-balling the cost a bit.

I agree that burning it off is shameful- now the price is rising, hopefully greed will kick in and they'll stop burning and start selling it. Particularly for cars- cleaner and cheaper than petrol.