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Old 04-09-08, 04:44 PM
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An Observer journalist has been to Naples to investigate that heart wrenching story and brings more shame to Naples. 'Why do the Italians hate us?' | Life and style | The Observer
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Old 04-09-08, 05:02 PM
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I didn't see this story covered in The Guardian.

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I haven't seen any stories in the British press, but it was reported by the American and Spanish press.... at least I am aware of those two....
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It looks as if you missed the original thread on the tragic drowning of the girls:
http://www.italymag.co.uk/forums/gen...ure-italy.html
and how we came into the realisation that news were manipulated by the press.
It looks as if they are further exploiting that terrible event. On the other hand, they seem to forget similarly tragic events that currently take place. Who decides what is going to be published... or not...?
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Noble I dont understand why Charles added that?

Anyway I do share your concerns about this aspect of italy.I have tried to read as much as I can on Italian history ever since we bought a house there .

It appears to me that Italians still only operate on a fuedal / tribal basis having alligences to their families and local comunity rather than to society as a whole.This reminds me of what I found in Ghana rather than of a European country and seems to have its roots in the history of Italy which differs profoundly from the history of other european countries.

Silvio Berlusconi is cynically exploiting this situation to gain votes but at what cost not just to the Romas but to Italy as a whole?
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It looks as if you missed the original thread on the tragic drowning of the girls:
http://www.italymag.co.uk/forums/gen...ure-italy.html
and how we came into the realisation that news were manipulated by the press.
It looks as if they are further exploiting that terrible event. On the other hand, they seem to forget similarly tragic events that currently take place. Who decides what is going to be published... or not...?
Editors!

And Editors are working to keep up their circulation figures and keep the shareholders happy. They will print whatever they think will sell papers.

The ‘general public’ love any story which makes them feel superior, so to be able to ‘tut tut’ about Italy’s treatment of the Roma eases the conscience of those who protest about Gipsy camps in their leafy village or who support the man who shot a 16 year old burglar in the back.

It even happens on this forum, just look at the thread about children’s behaviour, where almost all posters say how well behaved their children are in comparison to others.

The most terrible fact is that the story is not true and has been distorted and manipulated to feed the public ‘what it wants to read’.

We may all feel that it is not what we want to read, in the same way we say we never asked for tinned peas to be coloured a lurid green, but we still read it and we don’t buy grey peas!
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The reason I aded that (despite the fact that the atrocities perpetrated on the Dutch woman were by Romanian nationals - dunno if they were Rroms) was because to some extent, in my mind, it answers the pleading whinge in the Guardan 'Why do the Italians hate us'.

I could have linked to a very similar story where some German tourists, younger, and less badly beaten up, were attacked by three Italian youths (now arrested and incarcerated). One of the youths was apparently of an important camorra family in Naples.

But that story wouldn't have adressed the presumed 'Italians as racist and it's all because of Berlusconi' theme which is driving the UK press coverage.
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That was my first thought- "he's confusing Romanians and Roma". Same as Slovenians and Slovakians- all those bloody foreign names sound the same.
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Yup I keep thinking of you as Norma!!! lol

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