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[adriatica]

the way it works is this... its been found out that amongst the millions of legal intercepts in italy each year there have been loads of non authorised intercepts... balanced across all parties and famous people...

the people have been found and are supposed to go to trial ... it has been agreed surprise surprise by the goverment that all illegal tapes have to be destroyed and that any people or paers making any reference to any of the contents of these tapes will be liable for prosecution... most of that seems fair enough i guess...

the trouble with this is that they want to destroy these tapes straight away ... before any trials... which begs the question if you destroy the evidence how do you prosecute the people that made the illegal tapes...

more important why this big rush to pass a law in order to do this... and then another part inhibiting the press in getting hold of or publishing any of it...

there must be some pretty incriminating bits and pieces on these tapes which has caused not for the first time some pretty quick law drafting in italy to make sure nothing much gets known...

[iTALY BOUND]

Ok, i am on here for the first time in awhile and I have been hearing that the Italian government is falling apart. I am trying to piece the story together, but can someone please tell me what is going on and how it happened? I seriously think i am missing something. Honestly from what i am reading it is starting to sound like the American government in a sense. While we dont have an outright change in government or anything, american politics is all about who can get the most power. Regardless of how little i know about the situation, I am sorry that ordinary people have to suffer the consequences of a seemingly corrupt system. My heart goes out to you all.

Also is there any way i can change my profile name?

Grazi,

[deborahandricky]

Originally Posted by iTALY BOUND

Ok,
Also is there any way i can change my profile name?

Grazi,

Why ..........it sounds so Bob Hope and Bing Crosby

[Carole B]

Originally Posted by iTALY BOUND

Ok, i am on here for the first time in awhile and I have been hearing that the Italian government is falling apart. I am trying to piece the story together, but can someone please tell me what is going on and how it happened? I seriously think i am missing something. Honestly from what i am reading it is starting to sound like the American government in a sense. While we dont have an outright change in government or anything, american politics is all about who can get the most power. Regardless of how little i know about the situation, I am sorry that ordinary people have to suffer the consequences of a seemingly corrupt system. My heart goes out to you all.

Also is there any way i can change my profile name?

Grazi,

A 'laymans view - in a nutshell:

*There are approx 400 political parties in Italy.
*Italian 'party' representatives make up parliament.
*In the last election the two main parties had almost the same number of seats, so neither had a safe working majority.
*The main left wing party led by Romano Prodi had to 'woo' some smaller parties to join a coalition government and to support them in any parliamentary voting.
*If, for any reason they choose NOT to support a particular vote, then the government will lose the vote and risks having to face a vote of 'no confidence'. The smaller parties often agree to support the government to obtain 'favours' for their own party (and themselves it seems).

This time, because one representative (Mastella - the Justice Minister) had been accused, with his wife, of 'wrong doing' (?) he resigned and told the government that his party would no longer support them. So he started the current crisis!

So the 'numbers' were not going to ensure the safety of any vote and the opposition knew that. A vote of 'no confidence' was carried and the Prime Minister went to the President (Napolitano) and resigend.

The President now has to decide whether to call an election (wanted by the opposition) or try and get a 'short term' interim government in place to push through current electoral reform proposals - that if passed 'may' avoid this kind of debacle continuing for yet another 50 years!

[iTALY BOUND]

wow, ive always been up for a couple more political parties here in the United States but 400 is quite alot to run a government as evidenced by the recient events in your country. So what would happen exactly if the president went with an interim government? Are there any serious talks of completely revamping the political system? It seems like if things are left alone this problem will keep comming up. Whatever the solution I really hope your government gets itself worked out. Italy is too great of a country to fall into the grasp of anarchy.

Also why so many parties? Did Mussolini leave such a mistrust of authority that the people want political power divided into so many slices?

[deborahandricky]

Originally Posted by iTALY BOUND

Also why so many parties? ?

Well……..you get three guys talking, and you end up with 7000 options, so why not put on a show …………..

[iTALY BOUND]

Originally Posted by deborahandricky

Well……..you get three guys talking, and you end up with 7000 options, so why not put on a show …………..

LOL yeah i heard about people drinking champaign and spitting in your parliment chambers. sounds like a Jerry Springer episode. Wish our politics were as entertaining