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Old 15-02-07, 08:12 PM
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vincenza has decided to pretty well close tomorrow in the hope of avoiding problems...

what might well have been a pretty normal demonstration is turning into a sort of national crisis

government politicians are marching against the governments descision which has pretty well been joked about enough and really has little consequence apart from being a laugh

however it has also come at a time when the red brigade has reared its ugly head again and a lot of its members are under arrest and are due to be charged with various plans to blow up or kill various people/buildings...

what has this got to do with the march ... the last march had photos of three of those arrested recenty taking part in that event and there have been many statements from the far extreme left here which suggest that a battle against the police forces of the state is in the offing...

its all being blown up a lot here... not just by the right... the intereior minister is also making semi calming statements... it might well be an interesting day tomorrow for modern italian politics to see how far things will get pushed ... and it has all the makings of a worse event than the last G8 meeting here in italy...

hopefully some sort of compromise will be arrived at and it will all be a lot of hot air blown in the wind... but neither the italian riot police or the extreme far left are renowned for their calm approach to things ... and with recent memories of the policeman killed in the stadium violence and score sheets being painted on walls all around italy suggesting the ultras are one -nil up it all adds another sort of element...

to me it seems that its like the pot has been boiling here for quite a while and a number of events have aligned themselves badly in the sense of a violent outcome... and finally some frustrations... anger and hate will get released at this event... hopefully i am reading it all wrong ...tomorrow we shall see
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Hope that you are proved wrong Adriatica but I do think that what you and a lot of us are dreading is likely to become a huge mess.
I get the feeling they are almost asking for IT to happen.
Let's hope that this is one of the rare occassions when you and I are wrong!!!
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...I see they are predicting 50,000 protesters in Vincenza
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Despite fears of possible violence, the march passed off peacefully.
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There we go Adriatica we were proved wrong and happy to be so.
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dream you are right... a very strange day..... depite all the worries expressed here nothing happened

my thought still holds... there is a pressure building up here that is going to have to let off steam at some stage...

if i can explain that thought... the extreme left after a five year right to extreme right wing government got a central left supported by extreme left government in place... the one thought paramount in their minds was a change... but it hasnt happened... in fact the workers are worse off... so something or other is due to happen because you cannot repress the elements here of the extreme left for ever...

maybe it was all just too predictable that vicenza and the americans was going to be the breaking point... its not actually that i wish something would happen... well in a sense i wish it would happen sooner rather than later...because the longer things go on this way the harder the fall... i just find that in my mind its got to happen... much like the riots in the UK in the very depressed areas after thatcher...

another thing i might add... just to sort of explain my reasoning here... i dont find either prodi or berlusconi that attractive... i hate for instance the rights fornicating attitude to both the vatican and the usa... much as i hate the prodi approach to the sort of PLO arab and pro russian/anti usa pro france stance....

i actually think that if the DS and the AN leaders could get it together to somehow despite their past history manage to sustain parties that were capable on either side...right or left to get voted in as serious goverment majority elements then italy would be so much better off... they seem to be the only two parties from either side that seem to be able to reason beyond the dogma of historical burdens on both the left and right here that would maybe allow italy to move forward beyond arguements of either facism or marxism... two elements that in most of modern europe have long gone past their sell by date and are so marginalised that unlike here they have no relevance at all in modern politics....
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Lets hope that one day the mafia will be eradicated from Italy, with the European market squeezing them into legitimate business. I think our alarm company is a legitimate arm of the mafia, charging a rate so that no-one will break in
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