Italian Fascism revealed

[Nielo]

Originally Posted by lombardia2007

lol, I can't remember, but I can check next time I'm in that area. It wasn't expensive, and not exactly connoisseur wine, but it's crazy to think people would buy that!

Never mind, go and have a nice cup of camomile tea to calm you down

[Scrapspal]

I'll not attempt to educate you as every village needs an idiot and it seems ours may have been replaced.

[manopello]

hi lombardi I predicted that you could get some 'rough handling' on this forum after I read your car pollution thread but hang on in there and they'll get tired eventually and start bothering someone else.

I like your posts and I'm with you on this one too.Stay with us.

[lombardia2007]

Originally Posted by Scrapspal

I'll not attempt to educate you as every village needs an idiot and it seems ours may have been replaced.

I don't see why I need educating on fascism or nazism - you haven't explained your point.

& I don't think I'm an idiot with an IQ close to 150.

[Scrapspal]

I don't think you're an idiot with an IQ close to 150 either.

[lombardia2007]

Originally Posted by manopello

hi lombardi I predicted that you could get some 'rough handling' on this forum after I read your car pollution thread but hang on in there and they'll get tired eventually and start bothering someone else.

I like your posts and I'm with you on this one too.Stay with us.

Thanks for your post manopello, don't worry, I can take the rough with the smooth Sometimes you have to go against the grain, and I'm no conformist, lol

[lombardia2007]

Scrapspal, are you going to explain why you think I'm ignorant on fascism and nazism, or are you just blowing hot air?

[lombardia2007]

Originally Posted by Nielo

Never mind, go and have a nice cup of camomile tea to calm you down

lol, I don't need calming down Nielo - I'm perfectly calm thanks all the same, but you're right - it is time for a nice camomilla, thanks for the reminder

[Oneto15]

Originally Posted by lombardia2007

I've seen worse too, much worse - e.g. Hitler wine being sold in a local town, also large graffiti Nazi murials on walls, etc. It shocked and disgusted me when I saw the various bottles of Hitler wine, with "glory pictures" of him on, and also seen many Mussolini wooden heads at market stalls/craft fairs, and at the Hitler wine shop, a black baseball bat for protection with a Mussolini's head on with the slogan "BOIA CHI MOLLA" written down it in white text.

Found this while poking around the internet.... (From IsrealForum)

'Hitler wine' sparks protest
Friday, September 5, 2003 Posted: 1248 GMT ( 8:48 PM HKT)



"Fuehrerwein" is part of the winery's "historic line."


RELATED
Alessandro Lunardelli winery

BERLIN, Germany (AP) -- Germany has protested to Italy over a winery that labels its bottles with portraits of Adolf Hitler, the Justice Ministry said.

Justice Minister Brigitte Zypries recently wrote to her Italian counterpart to say the labels are "contemptible and tasteless" and asked him to see what could be done against them, spokeswoman Christiane Wirtz said Friday.

The so-called "Fuehrerwein" bottles, part of Alessandro Lunardelli's "historic line," features 14 different labels portraying Hitler and other Nazis, with slogans such as "Seig Heil."

Other labels in the same line include portraits of other infamous characters of history, such as Italy's former fascist dictator Benito Mussolini, and former Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin.

In a 2001 interview, Lunardelli told The Associated Press the labels were "a great marketing success."

The wine is available legally in Italy, where it can also be purchased on the Internet, Wirtz said. Its sale is illegal in Germany, where products bearing images or slogans from the Nazi era are outlawed.

Bavaria state said it was opening an investigation to see whether any of the bottles had crossed the border.

Zypries, in her letter to Italian Justice Minister Roberto Castelli, expressed hope that Italy would act as part of common European efforts to fight racism and xenophobia.

Castelli said Friday he had not been aware of the wine labels, but there was nothing his office could do and it was up to prosecutors to look into it.

"I agree, it seems in bad taste," he told Radio Padania.

Past attempts to end production of the wine in Italy have failed.

Jewish organizations in Italy's northern Alto Adige region sued to try to stop production, citing an Italian law against publicly glorifying any leaders or principles of fascism.

They lost when a judge ruled Lunardelli wasn't "exalting" Mussolini or Hitler by putting their pictures on bottles.

Germany's embassy in Rome has been protesting the bottles since 1997, with little success.

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/eu....ap/index.html


Just when you think you've seen and heard everything, there's more.

And that led me to this...

http://www.vinilunardelli.com/scelta.html

[lombardia2007]

Originally Posted by Oneto15

Found this while poking around the internet.... (From IsrealForum)

'Hitler wine' sparks protest
Friday, September 5, 2003 Posted: 1248 GMT ( 8:48 PM HKT)



"Fuehrerwein" is part of the winery's "historic line."


RELATED
Alessandro Lunardelli winery

BERLIN, Germany (AP) -- Germany has protested to Italy over a winery that labels its bottles with portraits of Adolf Hitler, the Justice Ministry said.

Justice Minister Brigitte Zypries recently wrote to her Italian counterpart to say the labels are "contemptible and tasteless" and asked him to see what could be done against them, spokeswoman Christiane Wirtz said Friday.

The so-called "Fuehrerwein" bottles, part of Alessandro Lunardelli's "historic line," features 14 different labels portraying Hitler and other Nazis, with slogans such as "Seig Heil."

Other labels in the same line include portraits of other infamous characters of history, such as Italy's former fascist dictator Benito Mussolini, and former Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin.

In a 2001 interview, Lunardelli told The Associated Press the labels were "a great marketing success."

The wine is available legally in Italy, where it can also be purchased on the Internet, Wirtz said. Its sale is illegal in Germany, where products bearing images or slogans from the Nazi era are outlawed.

Bavaria state said it was opening an investigation to see whether any of the bottles had crossed the border.

Zypries, in her letter to Italian Justice Minister Roberto Castelli, expressed hope that Italy would act as part of common European efforts to fight racism and xenophobia.

Castelli said Friday he had not been aware of the wine labels, but there was nothing his office could do and it was up to prosecutors to look into it.

"I agree, it seems in bad taste," he told Radio Padania.

Past attempts to end production of the wine in Italy have failed.

Jewish organizations in Italy's northern Alto Adige region sued to try to stop production, citing an Italian law against publicly glorifying any leaders or principles of fascism.

They lost when a judge ruled Lunardelli wasn't "exalting" Mussolini or Hitler by putting their pictures on bottles.

Germany's embassy in Rome has been protesting the bottles since 1997, with little success.

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/eu....ap/index.html


Just when you think you've seen and heard everything, there's more.

And that led me to this...

http://www.vinilunardelli.com/scelta.html

Thanks for that interesting info & links Oneto. I must admit it takes quite a lot for me to be shocked, but selling wine glorifying Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini in 2007 is unbelievable.