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10-08-07, 04:08 PM
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Italy's Misruling Class
There's a good article in the current issue of Time magazine. If you haven't got a copy, it's online: Italy's Misruling Class - TIME
Does anyone know if the book mentioned, La Casta by Sergio Rizzo & Gian Antonio Stella has been translated into English? jools ----- Villa in Tuscany for Sale Last edited by jools; 10-08-07 at 04:19 PM. 
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11-08-07, 06:34 PM
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I'm afraid that 'La Casta' has only just been published (2007) in Italian, and a quick search around the net suggests that it has not yet been picked up by an English Language publisher, so we might have to wait for a while. 
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28-08-07, 05:45 PM
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The more I read of Italian history and the politics of today, the more I realise that nothing has changed.
When we look at the era of the Medici there was actually 2 currencies and the banks applied exchange rates between them. Silver Florins for the rich and copper for the poor. This was a clear statement and the attitude has remained. I cannot see anything that Italy has done to encourage foreign investment. But then why would they as this would be foreign competition! The unemployment rates are so fudged its unreal. How many Italians do not earn a living but are excluded from those figures. Could it be double or perhaps more? Currently too much Italian economic stability is in the hands of those with pensions rather the the current taxpayer. If the pensions crisis becomes a real subject of conversation for the masses with pensioners worried that their pension may disappear........
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01-09-07, 03:01 PM
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I guess it's endemic in the culture. The hidden unemployment you mention also works the other way, I think. There seem to be lots of people working without paying taxes or declaring themselves gainfully employed - least around here. I read a figure somewhere (sorry, can't remember the source offhand) that the average annual declared income is ridiculously low (something like 10K euro). And while it's true that there are many Italians earning under the 'breadline', relative to other developed nations, Italy has a very high GDP, so goodness knows where all the money goes? - and that's not counting the billions the mafia are earning in cocaine trafficking ;)
Actually, the other day I was watching Michelle Malkin on Fox News (nope, I'm not a Republican or American) and she had strategists from both camps talking about various issues and they were indignant about corruption in their parties and things that needed changing for greater transparency. I had to laugh but I wonder if they'd come over to Italy and give the politicians here a bit of a shake.
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02-09-07, 06:21 PM
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Casa Nostra | L'espresso
the link above makes for a litlle bit of interesting reading, it sometimes astounds me how much berlusconnis misdemeanours get published when its happening all around him , amongst others anyway a cross party report which involves the super sanctimoious cassini, the present justice minister mastella , and the leader of the senate, amongst others from all parties and even trade unions, it involves massive amounts of money and involves the buying and selling of property... so its not just foreigners and estate agents... the interesting thing is the comments section below.. 260 odd when i looked and i cannot pretend to have read them all ...but it sounds a bit like italy mag forum when its talking about estate agents,notaries and favours being done
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02-09-07, 09:22 PM
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[quote=nigelaxis;70383]The more I read of Italian history and the politics of today, the more I realise that nothing has changed./[quote]
You will be in congenial company next Saturday on Vaffanculo Day! Hie thee to your local piazza. 8 settembre 2007: VAFFANCULO DAY
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03-09-07, 12:23 AM
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06-09-07, 04:37 PM
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[quote=Relaxed;71346][quote=nigelaxis;70383]The more I read of Italian history and the politics of today, the more I realise that nothing has changed./
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31-01-08, 12:40 AM
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I've just been watching Newsnight on BBC 2 where they were discussing the latest political situation in Italy including the rubbish strike in Naoles. I would imagine this is to be repeated on BBC - BBC iPlayer - Last 7 Days - Wednesday (afternoon)
The programme also mentioned that best selling book mentioned earlier in this thread, La Casta, so I subsequently googled before I found this thread Here is what I found - NPR: Book Reveals Excesses, Corruption of Italian Politics There is a link too on the page - Listen Now. I laughed when I heard Puglia, the flattest region of Italy had applied for grants for earthquake damage!!! Unbelievable
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31-01-08, 02:05 AM
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31 October to 2 November 2002 : earthquake at San Giuliano di Puglia. A school collapsed where 27 children died. 30 dead in all. 24, 26, 29 July 2003: tremors around Gargano, 3.1 to 3.6 on scale. 1 november 2006 : in provinces di Matera e Bari tremors felt, 2.3 degrees on richter scale. 10 December 2006: earthquake in Puglia , 4.5 degrees, epicentre near Gargano. Nearest affected comuni: Vieste, Peschici, Ischitella e Vico del Gargano.
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